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| BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | Views: 3261 |
| Aug 14, 2008 10:45 am | | BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
Surendra Manocha | | Is it a good time to invest in property in Kolkata. I am looking at a property in a large complex in a locality like Rajarhat which will be ready in the next 3-4 years Private Reply to Surendra Manocha |
| Aug 14, 2008 10:57 am | | re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
Rajat Ghosh | | prices are comming down in real estate , Hydrabad, is down 25 %
, gold might be a better investment .Private Reply to Rajat Ghosh |
| Aug 15, 2008 10:58 am | | re: re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
Dreams Unlimited | | My friend,in Rajarhat,the amenities are not good.most of the flats even developed by seasoned builders like Shrachi group are lying vacant.most of them are incomplete.There are very few shops in the locality.Transport is another headeache.Most of the ppl who bought property there are lying elsewhere.some are lying in rented houses.Hence property investment in Rajarhat is not a good idea. Private Reply to Dreams Unlimited |
| Aug 15, 2008 2:28 pm | | re: re: re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
subhash mohanti | | Despite the situation in Kolkata, I am inclined to believe that property may still be a reasonably good investment. This is because the prices have remained somewhat at the same levels for a while now. Transport is not the issue, its the traffic which is getting thicker and thicker. However, that situation is likely to improve in the next four to five years given the number of flyovers that are coming up in most strategic locations. Also Kolkata is set to have its first 41 km raised ring road which will have 14 toll gates and 29 ramps. This should ease the traffic somewhat in the future, though the number of vehicles continue to swell, which only proves that people here are getting increasingly affluent.
If fund flow into the city improves, surely real estate will be the first one to benefit. Private Reply to subhash mohanti |
| Aug 15, 2008 3:33 pm | | re: re: re: re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
MHN Parée | | In the long run, property is the only safe and viable investment in this volatile market...
However the rate of increase in property prices may come down.
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| Aug 15, 2008 7:03 pm | | BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
RAJAN ADVANI | | I have some ready flats for sale in the best location at Rajarhat which can be considered for sale.
The present booking price at Rajarhat is Rs.2,700/- per sq.ft.- dilivery after 2/3 years.
The flats which I have, will be ready for dilivery anytime during October 2008.
As regards infrastructure, the whole world knows about the work culture of West Bengal, but, sooner or later everything will be in place, and, Rajarhat will be the most premium area in the whole of the Eastern region.
If Narandra Modi becomes the Chief Minister of West Bengal than the prices will double overnight.
Please do get in touch with me if you are interested.Private Reply to RAJAN ADVANI |
| Aug 16, 2008 4:52 am | | re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
Amit Raychowdhary | | Rajan....dilivery???? Did u really study in St.Xaviers or some Pathshala in some dry and dusty town of Sind till the Pakis bought you a one way ticket to Kolkata???? Private Reply to Amit Raychowdhary |
| Aug 16, 2008 9:37 am | | re: re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
RAJAN ADVANI | | Fantastic-- I loved your comment-- I just want to know what are you so angry about?
It appears that my comments about West Bengal and its poor work culture has stirred your sentiments na?
delivery? yes-- not possession of the flat- the building is unapproachable as the road leading to it is missing.Only the ownership documents will delivered after making full and final payment for the flat.
The Pakis never even gave us a one way ticket-- they just herded us into a goods train and that train landed up in the state of milk and honey called Calcutta, since then, we and many others who came from other states like Rajasthan and Gujarat are running the economy of this state.
Thank your lucky stars that you are in Mumbai and don't live in the era of jokers like Shubhas Chakravorty and Mamata Banarjee who have not seen the outside gate of a Patshala.
During their last 30 years of misrule they have converted prestigious educational institutions and collages into patshalas -sans Xavier's.
As you are in the profession of head hunting, I suggest that you take up the task of convincing the Marxist's to save West Bengal by hiring the services of Narendra Modi and his team to run this state and save it from further deterioration and disgrace.
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| Aug 16, 2008 5:50 pm | | re: re: re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
Amit Raychowdhary | | Sai, instead of trying to give us gyan on how we should run our state, you should be looking at alternate options since you see so many problems in West Bengal.... and since when are PAPADS running the economy of West Bengal?????
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| Aug 16, 2008 6:45 pm | | re: re: re: re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
MHN Parée | | I think we should all desist from such types of innuendoes and attacks...
This forum is for discussion not intidimation or fights!!
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| Aug 17, 2008 2:07 pm | | re: re: re: re: re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
Dreams Unlimited | | Friends,first of all we should not fight.
Regarding property investment,it is good to be speculative,but we should look at the practical scenario.Many such investments took place in Diamond Park in Joka.
It is a reasonably posh locality and such speculative investments took place in lieu of the fact that it will dazzle in the near future.But years go by and very little development has seen the light of the day.Now,many of the flats and houses developed there are for sale or lying vacant.So,we have to look at the practicality of the situation before going forward with a lumpsum investment in property.Forget Gariahat,a flat in even a middleclass locality is not same as a flat in Rajarhat as till today.
Regards,
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| Aug 17, 2008 7:35 pm | | re: re: re: re: re: re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
RAJAN ADVANI | | People who fish from ponds are not considered fish eaters.
Fish eaters are those who go to the seas and brave the storms.
All the fish that you eat is produced in South India- can't even produce your own food ?
Here is an example of the work culture of Bengal which appeared in the Front page of THE TELEGRAPH-- talking about public platform? The newspaper is also on the public platform.
Where padads are concerned -- any fool can make sweets out of Channa-- try making sweets out of Chana and see how many centuries of work it will take.
The article:
"National Library employees, supposed to catalogue 20-25 books and periodicals a day, can manage only two.
As a consequence, members cannot borrow more than 10 lakh new books and periodicals that have been lying in neglect for the past couple of years.
The snail’s pace of work has prompted the library’s board of management, which functions under the Union culture ministry, to blame poor work culture as the biggest challenge before the 60-year-old institute of national importance.
An official said the board members were shocked to learn that the library employees take eight hours to catalogue and place on the shelves only two books against the standard practice of 20 to 25 in other libraries.
“The work culture is a matter of concern. Most employees are unwilling to work and those in the processing department (in charge of cataloging books) are the worst. They catalogue two books daily and go home,†board chairman Omprakash Kejariwal told Metro.
According to norms, when a book or periodical comes to the library, it goes to the processing department first for classification and preparation of catalogue cards.
Of the 442 regular employees of the library, around 60 are in the processing department.
Kejariwal, accompanied by two other board members, visited the library on Wednesday and held meetings with the librarian and the director-in-charge.
While evaluating the performance, the board members stumbled upon other startling facts like non-utilization of Rs 7 crore that the Union ministry had sanctioned as part of the library’s budget in the current fiscal.
“The fund was meant for buying books and periodicals, but not a single penny has been spent. The entire corpus has to be refunded if it remains underutilized and from next year, the amount can be slashed,†said a board member.
Director-in-charge R. Ramachandran, however, claimed that Rs 60 lakh has been spent to buy books and periodicals.
P.B Mangla, who was in the visiting team, said: “Accessing books is painfully slow and employees are too lethargic. The computerization process has got delayed because of the employees’ lackadaisical attitude. But why should the employees take hours to hand over books to readers? It’s unfortunate that readers have to face such harassment.â€
Mangla said there was no one to monitor the functioning of the library on a daily basis. The institution has been running without a director since the retirement of Suddhendu Mondal in August 2007.
“We are planning to organize seminars to instill a sense of responsibility in the employees so they start doing their job. We will discuss the issue with the ministry in Delhi,†a board member said.
Ramachandran admitted that work culture was a problem. “I have got several complaints from readers and action has been taken against employees who were found guilty.â€
A senior official blamed the ministry for the state of affairs. “Why are they suddenly raising the issue of work culture? It has been prevalent for many years. The ministry had let off several employees who had harassed readers because of their CPM connection.â€
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You can also read more on this issue in the next edition.
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| Aug 18, 2008 4:54 pm | | BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
MHN Parée | | Absolutely agree on the horrible work culture in the state...
I have worked in Delhi, mumbai, even chennai....
But calcutta takes the cake for expecting more money W/O any honey(work)
This has been created by politics, for I still believe the local people want to work and thrive.
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| Aug 21, 2008 6:34 pm | | re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
RAJAN ADVANI | |
BOLTI BAND????? (BUNDH)Private Reply to RAJAN ADVANI |
| Aug 21, 2008 8:05 pm | | BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
Jaydeep Chakravartty | | Not sure what you are so happy about Mr. Advani, last time I checked we do live in one country, if if there is something wrong in Bengal, it’s going to effect the whole country, don’t take pride in finding something obvious which is going to effect the whole country. We all know there is a problem of work culture in Bengal, but I have not seen any other people blaming the whole Bengali community. In the same way, there are problems in every parts of India, in case you have not noticed; there is a communal problem in Gujrat also.
I can also say, I am sure you must have heard this, it takes two to tango, when your so called business people are out there to suck the blood out of their employees, some of them do feel the need to join this trade union, not saying this is the main reason, but this is one of the main reasons for the militization of trade unions in Bengal. So, it’s easy to blame others for everything, but sometime do look inside and see how much benefit you have brought to the community you live in. If you don’t know what I mean, please visit any sales tax office and you will see, how many of your so called business men are there to find a way out of paying the taxes.
By the way, I am not sure if you have noticed, there has been apparently, 80 bandhs in last 6 months in Kerala, didn’t hear anything about you blaming the keralites. Or is it just us, the Bengalis, deservers this special honour.
I am a great admirer of what happened in Gujrat, they have really progressed a lot, but I am not sure if I want to trade Buddhadeb with Narendra, this actually shows, from where you and your so called business men thinks from, their bank account. I just hope, we don’t see a time when everyone starts thinking in the same way as you do. Yes, we do need development and fast, I just hope its not at the cost of having someone like Narendra Modi.
You know what, sometimes you don’t appreciate something that you have in front of you, I guess Kolkata and Bengal will be a much better place for u, when someone like Raj Thackary, kick the S**t out of your kind, or like in Delhi and you will be afraid to travel at night. Be little more grateful to the place you where you are staying and making a living.
Anyway, I don’t think anything can change people like you, so keep blaming everyone. One last thing, if you are really having such a bad time, I suggest you do visit Kerala for a change, I just don’t think it’s not fair on rest of India to keep you and your kind, just in Kolkata, you have so much knowledge about communities and work culture, you should really share this with rest of the country, and the world.
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| Aug 22, 2008 4:58 am | | re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
Amit Raychowdhary | |
BOLTI BAND????? (BUNDH)
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| Aug 22, 2008 5:42 am | | re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
S K | | Though we have moved away from the thread, couldn't help but second Jaydeep--the bumbling Buddha is anyday better than the snide Narendra Modi. Modi is even known to court the very community he worked to decimate when it comes to raking in moolah for his state, but am sure given another chance he will repeat his inhuman acts. Atleast West Bengal does not court intolerance, not like Gujarat, not like Maharashtra. Not even like our capital...
But let's not indulge in personal attacks, even if it is over spelling mistakes. And surely, hollering how Narendra Modi can save us is very petty.
Kindly don't hijack threads, create a new one if you must argue over the city's boons and banes. It is misleading for all of us.Private Reply to S K |
| Aug 22, 2008 11:52 am | | re: re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
Savita Govilkar | | State of Economy and Society of a state I think is direct reflection of people belonging to the State. Sometimes people though extremely knowledgeable and well read seem to be highly demotivated. Same people in some other environment seem to functioning much better. If you look at other states in India which may be commercially much more successful than WB , may be biggest failures when it comes to striking a work/family balance or even nurturing the local cultural traditions.
I feel WB still has a good chance to strike that balance. Somehow though very well read and highly knowledgeable they don’t believe that being disciplined and working harder will benefit them. Same people just 300 Km away in Tata Nagar will slog and make it happen. However in WB they will threaten to Gherao Tata employees.
Communism that has failed all over the world(Including in its own motherland) continues to appeal to the masses - is extremely surprising. Or is it being used as a sedative by politicians?
Sorry couldn't help writting here instead of starting new thread as suggested by SK.
And guys pardon for any typos... I went to Pathsala in Pune.Private Reply to Savita Govilkar |
| Aug 23, 2008 6:35 am | | re: re: re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
MHN Parée | | This latest TATA threat to pull out...
Is this not a result of needless political brinkmanship...
I feel Buddhadev is the best CM in a long time, but the culture and politics...??
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| Aug 23, 2008 6:38 am | | re: re: re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
Amit Raychowdhary | |
Communism that has failed all over the world(Including in its own motherland) continues to appeal to the masses - is extremely surprising. Or is it being used as a sedative by politicians?
I dont think this attitude has anything to do with communism OR socialism but a refusal to change to a new way of life.....
How do you define the Bank Managers strike all over the country?
OR
The Air- India Fiasco?
OR
The rampant corruption in the PSUs all over the country and the urgent need to sell off loss making units?
OR
Feudalism and the power of the Thakur lobby in MP,Bihar,UP...????
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| Aug 23, 2008 5:47 pm | | re: re: re: re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
Ernie Martin | | This is an interesting thread. May be a new thread for communist rule and it's influence on WB and other states and benefits/liabilities? Perhaps a new thread why Tata is considering moving and the fallout if they were to move.
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| Aug 23, 2008 6:22 pm | | BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
MHN Parée | | This is definitely not about Communism...rather despite communist efforts...;))
This is the result of unbridled democracy at work, which puts power above man and party above progress...
Wonder about democracy sometimes, really...!
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| Aug 24, 2008 2:15 am | | re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
Amitava Ghosh | | Friends,
One of my derams has been to own and live in a "Pukur Bari" (house with a sweet waterpond)not in the rustle bustle.Any clues on how one can get in touch with owners directly?
Was reading through this interesting thread - would be very interesting to hear an experts' analysis of a comparison between "commercially successful" state (was) US and our WBPrivate Reply to Amitava Ghosh |
| Aug 24, 2008 8:53 pm | | re: re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
RAJAN ADVANI | | Amitava- You want to live and Own and Live in a Pukur Bari?
Just wait a little longer-- let TATA pull out of West Bengal- as Ratan Tata said " When we decided to enter West Bengal with our dream car project people told me that I was MAD to take this decision"
Yes-- he was mad to take this decision and this madness will be a big setback to the TATA's as well as to the NATION.
Today, TATA'S are willing to suffer a loss of INR 1500 crore- can you imagine the Bank interest on this amount per hour??
Still, I say, that the exit cost of INR 1500 crore is very cheap.
If the TATA'S and all the other ancillary industries enter Singur with all their investments, the exit cost will be many folds higher,
Even if the TATA'S tide over with the present MAMATA situation and go ahead with the plant, THEN, they will find, to their horror and shock---------- Guess what????? ( no prizes for guessing)
THE CITU-- ( those who don't know---- CITU is the dreaded CPM backed trade union arm which has done worst damage to Bengal--than Hitler's Gestapo did in Germany.
After TATA pulls out of West Bengal, all the other prospective industrial investors in the pipeline will also pull out.
Eventually the real estate prices will crash so badly that it will make world history.
Bengal is an expert state in making negative history, leaders of Ghereo, strikes, lock- outs, bundhs,processions, bomb manufacturing etc. etc. and not to talk about their past hero's like Khudiram and the likes.
One good thing,for centuries they have been warning everybody by shouting-- "CHOLBA NA"- "CHOLBA NA" and as committed by them nothing ever worked( so don't say they never warned you) investors who have never headed their warning of "CHOLBA NA" and never evaluated the damage they have done to West Bengal by closing down hundreds of reputed, profitable and renowned engineering companies---Then the Tata's deserve to suffer losses for entering West Bengal.
Amitava- just wait a little longer, and if things are going the way they are, then, you will have a great Puker Bari on Chowringhee road.
The Communists will surly not call the Israelites, who have advanced technology in agricultural engineering, to develop the agriculture of West Bengal.
So what are they going to do for a living??? ( no prizes for guessing)
*SUNDARBAN CHALO"
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| Aug 25, 2008 4:38 am | | re: re: re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
Amitava Ghosh | | Rajan and other friends,
Yes there is huge amount of frustration for a place which all of us love so much and cant stand this decay.Only positive way to look at it that this could a stage of transformation albeit late.
However , taking just a 50,000 few at other places and I can definitely say about Delhi the problems are galore as well. Not getting into a comparison as that could defeat the original purpose of this thread.
Yes am looking at the next 2 years to start living in a Pukur Bari. Enough energy and resouces have gone in spending life in a hustle bustle and time enough to have some recluse.
So urge if any of you have any contacts do let me know. Yes Singur Is now well connected for a relatively greater distance through the Tolls.
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| Aug 28, 2008 3:08 pm | | re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
Prem Naik | | Attractive plotting scheme in a large scale with EMI options and bank loan facility is available.Anybody interested can be in touch with me. Private Reply to Prem Naik |
| Aug 28, 2008 7:15 pm | | re: Who supports Mamata Banarjee- Say- Yes or No -with reasons. | # |
RAJAN ADVANI | |
Originally this was a property thread that sentiments changed the subject.
Now this is still a property thread in principal but then the prices of property depends on the economic development of the state.
Mamata Banarjee is trying her best to throw out the TATA's and from my point of view is going to be disastrous for West Bengal.
How many of you support her and how many don't-- please put your views on this thread and let us see the results.Private Reply to RAJAN ADVANI |
| Aug 29, 2008 8:47 am | | re: re: Who supports Mamata Banarjee- Say- Yes or No -with reasons. | # |
MHN Parée | | Rajan,
Its quite clear that if the TATA's go, only the VERY insane will come here...!
THIS IS INDEED A RECIPE for disaster big time!
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| Aug 29, 2008 12:08 pm | | re: re: re: Who supports Mamata Banarjee- Say- Yes or No -with reasons. | # |
prabir ghose | | i agree. Private Reply to prabir ghose |
| Aug 29, 2008 12:22 pm | | Who supports Mamata Banarjee- Say- Yes or No -with reasons. | # |
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| Aug 29, 2008 6:56 pm | | re: Who supports Mamata Banarjee- Say- Yes or No -with reasons. | # |
RAJAN ADVANI | |
I LOVE KOLKATA- I WAS BORN IN THIS CITY AND SEEN IT'S PEAK OF GLORY- A TIME WHEN BOMBAY WAS A SMALL DOT ON THE MAP OF INDIA.
I have worked for the Iron & steel industry and have transacted with the Tata's and thousands of engineering companies for 20 years of my service and none of them exist today.
I have seen the demise of large industrial companies like Metal Box, GKW, Remington Rand , Jessop, Bridge & Roof, Burn Standard,Dunlop, and several hundreds of large, small and medium engineering companies.
Then their were home grown companies like Rallis Cycle, Koly biscuits and the list can go on and on- all these companies were murdered by the political parties who are sitting in Writers building today and making desperate attempts to revive West Bengal and today they are getting it back in the same coin they used for 30 years- it is they who have created this demon and the poor work culture just to destroy the state and and rule.
Today, I read a very good letter to the editors written by Mudar Patherya in The Telegraph which I am quoting below:
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What kind of a society do we belong to that exhorts me to pay more tax as an honorable citizen and then robs my right to work to earn it in the first place?
What kind of a society can destroy incomes and retard progress and then have the gall to claim that its bandh was ‘successful’?
What kind of a society can hide behind curtains at the first whisper of ‘bandh’ on the supposed fear of violence when the real reason is ‘kaaj koraar kono ichchhey nei?’
What kind of a society supports bandhs as a form of effective protest when not one bandh has helped correct inflation or bring down oil prices?
What kind of a society will watch lethargically as one party uses the bandh as a political tool to discredit another at the cost of millions who have nothing to do with both?
What kind of a society exercises the right to disagree on every point possible but agrees almost spontaneously and unanimously when it comes to the most despicable of all — the right to make oneself useless?
What kind of a society is this where we teach our children that ‘work is worship’ but when it comes to breaking a bandh, we would rather call friends over, play cards and watch a film while the rest of the country earns an honest living?
What kind of a society is this where some people can fool us all with words like ‘strike’, not ‘bandh’, and get away scot-free from legal consequences?
What kind of a society is this where an organisation can put a state back by millions of person- days and not be taken to court for damages?
What kind of a society is this where we all happily stay away from work without knowing even the reason why the bandh was called?
What kind of a society is this where it takes repeated reminders to get people to do something and only the whisper of a ‘bandh’ to get them to not do anything?
What kind of a society is this where if I disagree respectfully with anyone calling bandh then I should be disrespectfully coerced to think their way with brick or bat or both?
What kind of a society is this where after not having attended work for a full day someone actually has the cheek to ask ‘Shey ki, won’t we get paid for yesterday? It wasn’t my fault that I couldn’t come to work…’
What kind of a society calls itself the ‘mind of the nation’ when it does not even have a bloody spine?
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Quoted verbatim from The Telegraph Metro dated 29th. Instant.
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Friends,
Our state is in serious trouble if the Tata's withdraw from Singur, any suggestions what we can do?
Request all the media to build a strong campaign against Mamata Banarjee?
Light candles on Park Street? " SAVE BENGAL FROM EVIL FORCES" Who is ready to start the campaign?
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| Aug 29, 2008 7:37 pm | | re: re: Who supports Mamata Banarjee- Say- Yes or No -with reasons. | # |
MHN Parée | | I think the whole problem lies in politics and lust for power...
There should be no people, including us (the ordinary people of WB), who dont want to progress...Question is how?
IF TODAY the CPM wants industrialisation, just because its in power, tommorrow it may support Unionism if some other party occupies the Writer's...
BUT THE END RESULT - Everybody's a loser...!!
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| Aug 30, 2008 1:28 am | | re: re: re: Who supports Mamata Banarjee- Say- Yes or No -with reasons. | # |
Amitava Ghosh | |
Again the point that political parties and so unabashedly utilise - Those who matter for their votes , and for whom all the posturing happens doesn't include Rajan Advani or many of us.
Lighting candles at Park Street could get an image into Telegrah - lots of debate for the next 15 days and thats all.
A State wide campaign (not only restricted to Kolkata)opposing this decay and ensuring all of us take our voting seriously could be some of the answers although not all.Private Reply to Amitava Ghosh |
| Aug 30, 2008 3:35 am | | re: re: re: re: Who supports Mamata Banarjee- Say- Yes or No -with reasons. | # |
Ernie Martin | | I was in Kolkata just 6 months ago and traveled whole of India by trains for 5 weeks.
Even though I don't live in India, I do read and take interest in India's development and progress in economy, education and welfare of it's people. And of course any news about trains, trains, trains. I am an Indian trains buff.:-)).
It will be hard times for Singur and other residents if Tata leaves in disarray. Somehow the owners of the land, WB government and Tata can come up with some type of compensation for the acreage land in question and move on. Moreover, Tata has corporate image in India as well as in other countries.
If this issue gets out of control, and no solution in sight, Tata maybe be prepared to pull out. Here is where the voice of reasoning comes in. Tata can write off the losses in taxes, but, WB may become not so important state to invest by large corporations and the state will face wide unemployment and loss of revenue.
Here is the link I just read on BBC on-line about Tata's challenges:
"Protests close Nano car factory"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7588482.stm
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| Aug 30, 2008 5:53 am | | re: re: re: re: Who supports Mamata Banarjee- Say- Yes or No -with reasons. | # |
Amit Raychowdhary | |
Its time that the Govt calls in the troops .Agreed, that they might lose valuable votes in the next election but the bigger picture is that Bengal can show to the world that it is serious about industrialization.
I agree with Amitava completely that the solution does not lie in lighting candles on park street and getting photographed.....the problem is far more serious.
There seems to be more of a rural-urban divide and if not handled properly,things could get really messy.Tough measures are needed but adequate compensation needs to be made to ensure that that this problem is sorted out once and for all.Private Reply to Amit Raychowdhary |
| Aug 30, 2008 6:06 pm | | re: re: re: re: re: re: Who supports Mamata Banarjee- Say- Yes or No -with reasons. | # |
Dr. Bhupen Vyas | | Hari AUM.....Mamta has forgotten her old days at Hazara crossing, as per the information she is taking the public on ride and under the table will make her personnel benefit....she should think about the progress of our state which has be ruined by the policies of Jyotibabu from 1974 all the major industries have gone or shut down....Now our new CM is trying to bring back again the brighter days and Mamta is draging us back so we as public should not support this type of politicians....Hari AUM Private Reply to Dr. Bhupen Vyas |
| Aug 31, 2008 8:05 am | | re: re: Who supports Mamata Banarjee- Say- Yes or No -with reasons. | # |
MHN Parée | | This would indeed by funny, if it wasn't so pathetic...
It's like shooting oneself in the foot...!
And do these politicians suffer, no ...its the common man...
In my view, only way to placate is to donate...funds to those that are severely affected...the genuine ones like the farmers and the "VERY NEEDY" like the disgruntled politicians,,,!
Any takers...?
http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog/?l=1&u=5&mx=148&lmt=5
http://www.calcuttayellowpages.com/adver/105053.html
http://www.ryze.com/networkindex.php?network=kolkata
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| Aug 31, 2008 12:27 pm | | re: re: Who supports Mamata Banarjee- Say- Yes or No -with reasons. | # |
Anurag Mathur | | This thread is increasingly getting similar to the story of the blind men and the elephant.
Please remember ladies and gentlemen that
a) the culture and the class of Calcutta ( haven't travelled much into the interiors therefore will not comment) are unparalleled in any Metro
Irony - We are becoming exactly like them when we take refuge in innuendoes like the ones above and the fake patriotisim that rears its head at any perceived assault to our idendity.
Why are we losing our identity as Bengalis ? If you ask me it doesn't matter whether I come from Sind or Baluchistan or Jhumri Taliaya. If I live in Bengal and have a place in Bengal I call my home I am a Bengali
So if I am a Bengali I have a right to express what I don't like about my state
We are all agreed that it is not the average Babu Moshai on the streets who is interested in a Bandh, but the one in Writers' . As far as ' MamaTata' is concerned, she has dug her own political grave with the help of outsiders and therefore the Tatas are not even talking to her...what's the point of investing time in someone who is very quickly going to lose her relevance anyways.....
Who cares about the landless in Singur anyways ? Did anyone of us weigh the pros and cons and light the candle of our collective wisdom to Mamatadi 2 years ago ? No ! So there's no point in cribbing about it !
We need to improve the work culture and let it start with all of us individually.
The only way to a Sonar Bangladesh is via hard work. We have wasted 500 years in addabazi and all that jazz..Reject all politicians who think otherwise. Even if it be Mr. Modi
As far as property is concerned wonder if Tata pullout will have any impact, but its better to wait
Cheers
Anurag
Private Reply to Anurag Mathur |
| Aug 31, 2008 7:11 pm | | re: re: re: Who supports Mamata Banarjee- Say- Yes or No -with reasons. | # |
RAJAN ADVANI | |
I THINK THAT WE SHOULD CALL THE BRITISH BACK TO RULE THIS COUNTRY.
FROM THE LAST FIVE YEARS I HAVE NOT ATTENDED A SINGLE FLAG HOISTING CEREMONY ON 15TH. AUGUST --- AND YOU KNOW WHY?
NO PRIZES FOR GUESSING---- WE ARE STILL NOT FREE FROM FOREIGN RULE????
EVERYBODY HAS FORGOTTEN THAT THE COUNTRY IS UNDER THE RULE OF THE ITALIANS.
JUST LOOK AT THIS SITUATION-- THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING THE SINGUR STANDOFF AND THE CENTRAL GOVERNMENT IS SILENTLY WATCHING THE FUN.
EVERY HOUSEHOLD IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE NANO CAR PLANT AND OUR GREAT DR. MANMOHAN SINGH -- THAT SAME GREAT DR. MANMOHAN SINGH-- THE DOYEN OF LIBERALIZATION AND GLOBALIZATION IS A SILENT SPECTATOR.
FROM A FOREIGNER'S POINT OF VIEW IT IS THE REPUTATION OF INDIA WHICH IS AT STAKE-- THEY DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THE POOR WORK CULTURE AND THE INDUSTRIAL HISTORY OF WEST BENGAL??
INSTEAD OF TRYING TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE, THEY HAVE SENT THE DALAL ( BROKER) AMAR SINGH TO AGGRAVATE THE SITUATION FURTHER, JUST BECAUSE THE CPM WITHDREW SUPPORT.
IT COULD BE THAT AMAR SINGH IS FUNDING THE STAND OFF- IT IS COSTING THE TRINAMUL INR. ONE CRORE PER DAY!-- WHO IS BEARING THIS COST- WHO IS FUNDING THIS MOVEMENT-- OBVIOUSLY THOSE WHO ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THE 1 LAKH RUPEE NANO CAR? MARUTI UDYOG WILL BE AFFECTED. ALL THE 2 WHEELER MANUFACTURES WILL BE SERIOUSLY AFFECTED.
FOR OUR POLITICIANS , INDIA IS NOT ONE COUNTRY- THEY ARE FRAGMENTING THE STATES AND DIVIDING IT INTO FURTHER PORTIONS IN THE NAME OF CASTE AND CREED SO THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO RULE AND MAKE BIG MONEY WHILE WE SIT ON OUR COMPUTERS AND WASTE TIME AND ELECTRICITY IN EXPRESSING OUR VIEWS.
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| Aug 31, 2008 7:23 pm | | re: re: re: re: Who supports Mamata Banarjee- Say- Yes or No -with reasons. | # |
RAJAN ADVANI | |
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| Sep 01, 2008 8:49 am | | re: re: re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
Kanad Bandyopadhyay | | I do not agree with the very general statement that 300 km away same Bengalis begin to function differently. Bengal has been a border state traumatized by partition just as the Punjab has under different circumstances, GPS locations(lat and long different) and many other things. Bengal like Punjab could have been a part of the "Look East" consortium of nations/sub nations post partition. Nehru and Gandhi began what Bengal is today. Yes accentuated by a drive of ill administered Marxism. The culture of Bengalis match part of Burma, Thailand and the land of Kamboj and Bali and of course Sri Lanka. It is far off from Delhi and Mumbai and distinctly different.
Think of it - Bengali is an accepted international language other than Hindi. And on many websites it is only Bengali and less of Hindi. And there are many spread across the world (which includes the Bangaldesh of today).
Bengal and Calcutta cannot be what Mumbai and Delhi are. And there are too many threads to unravel all of that. 200-400 years of Britishers have not been able to do that. It is a unique outpost of India and ends in the swamp lands of Sunderbans.
And Bengal will make a Nano when it feels it has to. Some will say that it is not Bengalis but RATAN Bhai - I was surprised to learn that some of the best designers and conceptualizers were from the land of the Sunderbans. At least their DNA was.Many hard working non "Bengalis" have benefited and so have the same ones in the dry and rocky Maharashtra(a good part of it). For they came from areas where there was no food in todays age( all deserts after the Saraswati disappeared).
As regards Nation States : their boundaries expand and contract (like the beat of the heart). Read Poland by James Michener. And many other places.
Life goes on...Private Reply to Kanad Bandyopadhyay |
| Sep 01, 2008 8:59 am | | re: re: re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
Kanad Bandyopadhyay | | "Bengal is an expert state in making negative history, leaders of Ghereo, strikes, lock- outs, bundhs,processions, bomb manufacturing etc. etc. and not to talk about their past hero's like Khudiram and the likes."
Why do you hate/dislike Khudiram and others? This part is not understood. You say that you were born in Bengal and all of that.
Just keen to know..Private Reply to Kanad Bandyopadhyay |
| Sep 01, 2008 6:14 pm | | re: re: re: re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
RAJAN ADVANI | |
I do not dislike or hate Khudiram or others-- it is just that their contribution towards the freedom movement ended with disastrous results.
I do not wish to argue on this subject, I am giving you the opportunity to find out what contribution Khudiram made and post it on this thread yourself.
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| Sep 02, 2008 3:46 am | | re: re: re: re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
Savita Govilkar | | I think we were discussing work culture as it stands to day. Some states have benefitted by natural beauty and some have been benefitted by the same much more than others, but that is besides the point here. Politicians are present in all the states and in all the countries all over the world. Politicians are elected in India (biggest democracy in the world-barring few incidents of booth capture etc- political parties elected indicate the choice of people).I think all of us are missing the point that nowhere masses are non-hard working due to DNA etc, however it is a result if people loose faith in hardwork. Whenever they develop that trust they do end up working hard and make it happen. Gujarathis came To Maharashtra worked hard, moment Gujarath itself restrcutured policies for better growth, Gujarathis in Gujarath too started slogging within no time and work culture there too changed for better.Now these states may have many other problems like lack of natural beauty, non modern religious views.. but we are not discussing that. As that is independent of work culture. Most developed industrialized rich society may co exist with orthodox, ritual oriented, female exploiting culture, but the fix for that is somewhere else. Private Reply to Savita Govilkar |
| Sep 02, 2008 4:45 am | | re: re: re: re: re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
Kanad Bandyopadhyay | | Ah! Good reply. Thank you. Private Reply to Kanad Bandyopadhyay |
| Sep 02, 2008 6:37 am | | re: re: re: re: re: re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
Savita Govilkar | | Thanks for agreeing, However I feel it is always better for any society to be well aware of facts, (I mean not denying them), focus on future, understand the changing environment. If past glories are discussed then should be mainly to learn from them and challenge is not to sidetrack ..Most of the freedom fighters did what they thought was right, based on the information available to them in those days(Remember total absence of even fully functional telephone lines being available to them)FUll dependency on News papers(news getting published withw atever delays), what worked was tremendous committment.. Some of their ideas may have turned wrong a bit here and their.. do we think fruits of their activities are more than damages? It is very easy to say now that 'they could have done better'. We are responsible up to large extent, for what we are today as individuals, and individuals too form society..Politician can enforce what people want to be enforced upon them..If any leadership is harming the society it is upto people not to follow it.. Private Reply to Savita Govilkar |
| Sep 02, 2008 9:13 am | | re: BUYING PROPERTY IN KOLKATA | # |
Prem Naik | | Plots available at rajarhat in big way at 3,4,5 Cottahs size.Total plots available for sale is 465 out of which 40% is sold. EMI facility also available. If sounds interesting visit to the site can be arranged. Private Reply to Prem Naik |
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